Ian Holloway talks Everton: Is Moyes coming back, could Ancelotti make the move, or is Big Dunc the main man?

Ian Holloway by Ian Holloway / 11 December 2019, 17:25

It’s nearing a week since Everton made the decision to pull the plug on their partnership with Marco Silva, yet the identity of the club’s next manager remains a mystery.

An array of various gaffers are in the mix for the post, a few of which we discussed with Ian Holloway, who also had his say on the manner in which Silva lost his job...

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What did you make of Marco Silva getting sacked after spending 10 hours at the training ground?

Firstly, it’s really important that clubs deal with things correctly. I don’t think Everton did on this occasion. 

Clubs like Everton usually get everything right, they’re a dignified and well run club but I think that they’ve let themselves down a little bit.

If you’re Marco, you’re sat in your training ground after you’ve just watched your side lose 5-2 to your fierce rivals. You realise that over the last few weeks that things have been running away from you and unravelling a bit. 

You can’t get that good feeling that you had at the end of last season, you’ve spent an awful lot of money, and you pretty much know what’s going to happen.

He won’t be too upset because deep down he didn’t do as well as he wanted to or as he should have done.

It is what it is these days I’m afraid. 

I’ve seen worse than that, when West Ham sacked Avram Grant away at Norwich and they told him he couldn’t come back on the bus with the team. The team stuck up for him, got him on the bus and took him back.

It’s a crazy old world these days. We had it on Tuesday when Carlo Ancelotti won 4-0 in the Champions League, then got the sack!

I got sacked when financially I had done the best job I’ve ever done at QPR.

I saved them an awful lot of money, made them five points better off, got some young lads in, bought one for £60,000 who’s going to be worth an awful lot of money, and unfortunately they decided to give the job to someone else. 

That is it, you know you’re in the game. You can’t do much else. My own experience tells me that I’ve done 958 games and I’ve got 42 left to hit the big 1000, which in today’s market means that I probably need another six jobs to hit that target!

I met Jonathan Woodgate the other day, a really fascinating fella, and I hope he has a really long managerial career, but he told me in my first two jobs that I got five years as a manger and actually served that.

Nowadays, that’s what is wrong with the game I feel. You don’t get time to do things, you’re not important enough for people to listen.

If they’re getting richer and richer and the players feel like they can change things, the fans also have a say in whether you’re getting sacked in the morning and get their owners out.

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Absolute Passion!

Could Duncan Ferguson be the right man for Everton?

The beautiful thing about this game is that there are different ways of playing. What you need to find is your own identity and I think Duncan knows that club so well, he knows how he feels about it and his passion is probably more obvious than anyone else in football. 

When he played as a No.9, he had a very aggressive streak, he was a passionate man and he would let you know that he’s the boss.

For me the game is so passionate and a lot of clubs are going away from that because they’re all searching for ‘pretty, pretty, pretty’.

What Duncan did against Chelsea was that he simplified things.

He put two players upfront, he got his two wingers out wide, players were piling in the box and it paid dividends.

Now that won’t always work, but as long as the fight is there, as long as the effort is there, as long as there’s that combative nature there, then you’ve always got a chance. 

What Everton don’t want to see is all this lovely football, only to then give the ball away. Taking too long to get it up front, having no shots at goal for all their possession, and ultimately losing again. 

Letting goals in from set pieces, they had the worst record for that. I like to protect managers, but sorry Mr Silva that isn’t good enough.

At the end of the day you can’t argue about how much money Everton have spent and where they want to get, but they’re nowhere near it at the moment. 

Just a couple of wins can change all of that, the win they had last weekend against Chelsea is massive and nobody saw it coming, but Duncan did.

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David Moyes remains in contention to return to Goodison

What about David Moyes, should he go back?

Let’s face it, in recent years David has been so unlucky. He got the Man Utd job after the spectacular job he did at Everton, keeping them constantly in the top half half of the Premier League. 

Sir Alex Ferguson chose him, he was the one who wanted him. Personally I think David made a slight mistake by getting rid of some of the staff, specifically Mike Phelan.

I would have wanted to run the club like Man Utd and I would have just added to it, instead of trying to be be like Everton, because Everton weren’t as successful as Man Utd. It’s that simple.

David made the choice and that’s what he did and he wanted his people with him. Unfortunately that didn’t work, but he wasn’t given enough time in my opinion.

He then went to West Ham where I think he did a brilliant job, but who am I to tell owners what to do? They’re very intelligent people.

Moyes doesn’t become a bad manager over night, he’s certainly not a dinosaur. I know Sam Allardyce isn’t a dinosaur and I'm sure as hell know that Tony Pulis isn’t a dinosaur.

They’re all good at doing certain things with their teams and there’s nothing wrong with that.

Unfortunately everybody wants to see the football that Pep Guardiola’s playing, that Klopp’s playing, but not everybody can do that, not everybody is going to have those type of players to do that. 

There’s a lot of people who can do a good job at Everton, but they’re going to have to give them time and commitment and I don’t necessarily see it being a foreign manager.

I wouldn’t look past Moyes for the job, because he knows the club so well and he’s got a brilliant relationship with the previous owner.

The new owners however may not want what the club had before, the fans may not want what they had before, but sometimes you’ve got to be very careful what you wish for.

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Carlo Ancelotti is being hotly linked with a Premier League comeback

Could Carlo Ancelotti be the next Everton manager?

I don’t know, it could be Everton, Arsenal or any other club needing a manager at the moment because West Ham’s Manuel Pellegrini is also being talked about in the wrong way.

You’ve got to remember that Carlo Ancelotti won the title at Chelsea and still got replaced.

Look at Claudio Ranieri at Leicester, he did one of the most amazing things I’ve ever seen by winning the title with Leicester, then the following season he got the sack.

When people like Jose Mourinho, arguably one of the best managers in the world if you look at his record, can be left high and dry by members of his squad like he was at Chelsea, then we have to look at the game itself. How can they be more important than the club itself?

It will be interesting to see how things with Ancelotti develop.

Would Ancelotti get instant respect from the Everton squad because of what he’s achieved?

He should do, but he’s going to have to adapt to somebody else's squad of players, and the way the game is at the minute you’ve only got a short period of time to change that in a window, and very few managers last until the next window.

You need someone now to change the mindset of that football club, with the same players. 

Someone like Ancelotti has done that before and he can do it because he’s used to being the manager in that format. 

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